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By: Emily Speed

Rather than talk about my work on here (I have tried it and it seems to make me quite despondent) I have decided it will be far more helpful for me to explore some of the issues facing artists trying to make a living out of this business...

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# 110 [14 September 2009]

Last night (at about ten pm) I managed to pin down Katharina for her interview. I should stop saying interview I think, they are more like conversations.

Anyway, it was good, very interesting and I was glad we got it done as I leave Linz in two days! She is incredibly busy, and at 26 and still studying she is doing remarkably well with a gallery and platform space representing her in Vienna. It was inspiring stuff indeed and it was the kind of conversation that made me reconsider some of my own opinions.

This richness that comes out in a conversation with someone you have got to know quite well is such a different thing to the online questions I have also sent out. I'm not sure those are actually much use anymore, they are interesting, but perhaps there is not a broad enough sample to make it truly useful.

 

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Hello Emily: I responded to your request on LinkedIn.

posted on 2009-09-14 by Richard Taylor

I agree, I interviewed people face to face as well as questionnaires etc. It quickly became evident that the more personal one on one sessions with people I had a connection with were by far the most valuable and I quickly dropped all other methods to concentrate on that.

posted on 2009-09-14 by Susan Francis

# 109 [13 September 2009]

Saw a really interesting exhibition yesterday in Nordico (the museum for Linz's stuff). Actually the exhibition wasn't great, but there were some good facts and figures around the place ranging from the city's Nazi past to how they got capital of culture and what that has meant.

One room was about employment. Hitler and Goering built a massive factory here, one which brought masses of employment and development to Linz and probably made the place what it is today. Now it is VOEST Alpine and still employs loads of people. There were some thoughts from local people about employment and their working hours and one film has VOEST workers next to artists and cultural workers (whatever that may mean..). Now this was interesting - the two major industries in Linz shown together inviting comparison. The factory workers said that the company was very good not to encourage overtime or excessive working, they provide things like a swmming pool and little day trips and holidays for their workers and see the health of their workers as something to be invested in. I don't know how true this all is, but it sounds good. All of the workers interviewed said that home and life were completely separate and they had no problem leaving work at work.

The artists and musicians on the other hand said they were happier earning less and stuggling for time, but they all felt that no one understood how hard they work, and that their hours were frequently more than 12 a day. There was also a common thread of being constantly ON and also not feeling their was enough time for the true vocation (be it painting or music or other) as they needed more than two or three jobs to make a living.

some quotes from the artists' interviews:

'it is all very uncertain, I go from one project to another without thinking about next year's income.'

'it all intrudes on my private life, or I don't have one because it is all mixed together. I think I have unlimited working hours.'

'it's all too little to do with what I studied these days, but I need my day jobs to fund my lifestyle. To be honest sometimes it's all a bit hard to manage.'

and from a Voest Dept. Manager:

'those people who work many hours extra can be very useful, you can always give them an extra project or call them late, but overall they represent a problem to the system as a whole.'

(I'm showing this last bit to my husband..)

# 108 [11 September 2009]

Gettingpaid/ websites blog:

Two interviews done with Artists here today - things speed up when the end gets closer!

These were really interesting as they were more like conversations that developed out of the initial questions (artists I can't get to have been answering an online survey, which is no where near as satisfying or revealing). Often way off topic, there were some great snippits of things that came up that made me think twice about my standpoint on things.

First thing I'll mention - I shall come back to it after transcribing them, but my goodness 45 minute interviews contain a lot of words! - is marketing. This was mentioned in both as being utterly essential to getting your work seen and one of the artists said he couldn't understand why some of his friends didn't have websites yet.

I am of a similar opinion, although I do think it's better to having nothing online than to represent yourself poorly. Before I came to Linz I googled all the artists and was really frustrated when I couldn't find anything on one of the artists anywhere. After seeing both of his studios I am still a bit unsure of what his work is about exactly, a fact that I both like and am frustrated by. I guess what I like is that  there is something to discover on my own terms, I don't have a statement spelling it all out and arranging it neatly online. I wondered whether I look at artists' websites and then think that I know all about them, when I probably haven't a clue. Judgements are made very quickly after all and if an artist used comic sans or similar on their website I would probably dismiss them entirely (not really, well maybe..).

However, finding out from people in these chats how many contacts come from the internet (certainly for me it's the majority) and where that can lead: I think spelling it out is probably wise. I also love having a website because you can see who is looking at your work. You know when, where, which things they look at, how long they spend and ip addresses with ac.uk and gov.uk are very informative. I know how many referrals I get (this month my blog has given me 7 for example), it's not what you expect that gets you the most traffic. I am always incredibly pleased when people link to me, and in my stats I can see I am getting ten times as many visitors as this time last year.

Free websites and blogs are great, but I like having more control over the appearance and getting statistics! I must admit that I had the help of programmer-husband who got me started - but I can do it myself now. It might seem expensive but I think the £50/year for hosting is very good value. HTML is not too hard to learn, try this step by step website:

http://htmldog.com/

 

 

# 107 [10 September 2009]

Ooh, I found this today and was very pleased: Kirsty Hall saying how much she hates the myth of the tortured artist. She also has links to a couple of other blogs  that agree.

http://kirstyhall.co.uk/blog/2009/08/the-tortured-...

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Thanks for the link, Emily. I'm glad you enjoyed the article, I had my ranty head on!

posted on 2009-09-11 by Kirsty Hall

'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

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'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

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'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

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'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

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'From the Mountain to the Abyss'.

# 106 [8 September 2009]

I have been asked to be in a show in Blackpool at the end of the month and by some miracle will be able to organise myself into it between returning from Linz and going to YSP for first part of the project! A fellow a-n blogger is in it too and some faces I know from Liverpool.

This exhibition might be quite a pivotal moment for me: the work is one I have shown before! The work  still exists, it is not in a skip, damaged, stolen. It is infact in the boot of the car where I left it.

I have been thinking about this for a while, since I thought about how often one of the artists here was exhibiting (along with other people I know) and how that might be acheived with the help of making films and sending DVDs. Not that I'm saying film is easier, not by any means! But it is easier to transport, replicate and I want more of that. Enough spending £200 driving places with a car full of wood and tools, more spending £10 on posting some things in a box please. 
I have spent the last eight ish years making site-specific works that no longer exist when the show or residency or whatever is over. Documenting things brings other problems, particularly that of skewing the way people view the work. Plus I don't show photographs or re-show works so that doesn't help too much either. Last time I tried to do this I ended up remaking it anyway.

I have a couple of (small!) solo shows coming up in 2010 and I was thinking that if either were bigger, I would never be able to do it, unless they gave me a year to work for it. I have no stock, for want of a better word.

For Drawn In at the Bluecoat space in April I made a piece about heights, danger, voids, the unknown. It is called 'From the Mountain to the Abyss' - see pics. As this was made in the studio and not in response to a site - actually is was made in response to a paper at a conference the week before - it was different. I can keep it, it is transportable. So, it will get its second outing this month and I will pack it with pins and diagram and go to the opening for drinks. This is good.
I don't think I want to make all my work like this, in fact I know I don't, especially as I need the deadlines of exhibitions and other things to act as important kicks up the bum and I love responding to new places and histories. But for my own sake, my bank account's sake and to be able to apply and take part in more opportunities, I think I should be doing this more often.

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Emily, Thank you for responding to my questions. I have been able to see the work more clearly, although there is no substitute for first hand experience. I like the ambiguity (as I see it) in the use of drawings as representations and as objects, and their juxtaposition with objects which which represent.

posted on 2009-09-15 by David Minton

Right David, you asked for it! Here goes……. After the paper and thinking about voids/abysses/holes I decided it was all about mortality; climbing a mountain or swimming far out or deep into the sea reminds us of our own mortality doesn't it? At the time my Grandad had just died and I wanted to put him in the piece, as he would have enjoyed the paper too. So the blue colour is his architect-draughtsman’s colour, ground and mixed with water (quite a feat for an impatient like me). When I make work about loss/death/mortality, which is probably too often, I often use derelict buildings or unstable structures as stand ins for people or to be symbols for temporality. Here the hole in the ground at the bottom was from a news story in Manchester where a huge hole appeared in a road one day, although I made it up so it may not look similar. The top structure (a tank or building?) sees water leaking from it and the second has stains drawn on it to show where water once was. This pool like thing and the wooden version of it on the floor are both unstable things that cannot hold water (there is blue stains in the wooden piece with pigment on the floor where liquid has run out and dried). I was imaging this piece as a sketch for a colossal thing, maybe 40ft high in my fantasies, so I used the wood next to the smaller scale drawings and I imagined how big these cliff things would be if life-sized. I love the transportation that happens with miniature and find it interesting to place referential drawings next to objects (like planks) to see how it changes them, although I don’t know if other people experience this when they see the work. Everything in the work is balanced as I wanted the installation to also be a bit precarious and temporary. The drawings are placed so that the water may once have fed through them and so they lead down vertically to the blue pool on the floor. In the title I wanted to acknowledge the starting point for the work and I also wanted to evoke this

posted on 2009-09-12 by Emily Speed

Emily, Thank you for replying. Can I push my questions a bit further? The objects and their materials I assume have some symbolic or literal value in relation to the ‘subject’ of the piece. Also the work has a physical structure. How do you arrive at what the work stands for and how it is structured?

posted on 2009-09-11 by David Minton

David, sorry for the slow reply, I had to think about it, but probably no wiser! I like reading a lot, probably too much as it sometimes takes over my thoughts.. but I was presenting a paper at a conference at Stafford Uni earlier this year about the psychology of space and one of the other presenters gave a paper called 'Nietzsche, an alpine experience and the spirit of place'. Long discussion ensued about the delight found in the fear of exploring unknown, wild places and looking down from mountains into the abyss; feeling dwarfed by sublime landscape. It then went on to water.. was the sea the opposite of this experience? Could you be in a boat? No, you would probably have to be submerged for it to be truly opposite. Anyway, much thinking about this, especially being in water, which I love, led to this piece of work, which still seems like a sketch of sorts that will develop into more work. I know that doesn’t explain the work entirely, just gives the starting point, but that’s all I have at the moment! As for documentation skewing the way people see things - it's automatically give the romance of not existing anymore. I think I am more curious to see something when I cannot and that gives a thing power it might not have on its own..

posted on 2009-09-11 by Emily Speed

Emily, I am curious about this piece. I also am a little apprehensive in my approach. You mention ‘skewing the way people see the work’ in reference to documenting impermanent installations. It has a title which clearly means something. At the risk of seeming to ask ‘What is your work about?’ I am curious to know what the work might mean to you, and how such a piece evolves.

posted on 2009-09-10 by David Minton

Yes, from now on it is curated group shows or smaller things that I have more control over. In the last exhibition two people said to me that my work disappeared in the gallery.. oh dear. I also wonder what the point is sometimes, but I know that I will carry on regardless, as I'm sure will you!

posted on 2009-09-10 by Emily Speed

Hi Emily I so sympathise with these last two posts 100%. I have had to compromise like you over space in group shows and like you I have very quiet work which just dies when shown next to something riotous. In fact I haven't shown in a group show since the last one I was in because it's so hard to get it right. And as for making difficult site specific work that means you have no 'stock' to fall back on - I know just what you mean. Everything I do tends to be very labour intensive and often temporary, I often wonder why I do it, and who would give a **** if I stopped!

posted on 2009-09-09 by Susan Francis

'Emily Speed'. Some of the artists from Salzamt at the opening, from left: Mehmet, Rait, Me, Krystina, Jens and Verena.(I need new shoes).

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'Emily Speed'. Some of the artists from Salzamt at the opening, from left: Mehmet, Rait, Me, Krystina, Jens and Verena.(I need new shoes).

# 105 [8 September 2009]

Ah, show is up, I have a title.. it's not the most amazing thing I have ever done, but that disappointment is partly due to the fact that I can't show the animation alongside the sculpture.. otherwise it will do. This exhibition could have really done with a curator.. as it is, it looks like two solo shows with the rest of us squeezed between.. no actually, Rait is in a little room on his own and that works well. But a big-ish rectangular hall is always problematic, especially when you have six artists with a big film on one end wall with incredible sound, and two other sounds pieces, as well as two films with sound in an ante room. I might wear ear plugs tonight.

Jens and I have silent work. Cardboard and paper (photographs). I would have liked light, but I couldn't get slides done in time for the projection idea. Not sure I could afford them either. I saw an exhibition in Salzburg which had medium format slides, oh how I envied those... the projector looked extremely expensive however.

Anyway, it is difficult when everyone wants their work shown to its best, but this show hardly ended up being diplomatic - it was pretty much first come first served in the end. Holger did say that the next exhibitions would concentrate on two or three artists who were at the end of their residencies, which seems to make more sense and will be infinitely more manageable.

Perhaps I am too quick to compromise, I don't know. But I find it bizarre when artists are all in this situation together and still won't compromise. I see both sides I suppose, but I find confrontation difficult and as the space is not ideal for anyone, compromise seems inevitable. Should I be a bit harder I wonder?

 

 

 

Ruth (left) and I starting on the birthday fizz....

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Ruth (left) and I starting on the birthday fizz....

# 104 [6 September 2009]

Apologies for going so awol... very good long weekend in Liverpool/Kingsley having a 1950s themed birthday party. No time to finish off all those little jobs while I was home after all.. so am feeling unprepared and a bit muddled about what I need to do next. Mum was here for a few days this week so we saw a lot, explored, ate, drank and were utterly geeked up at Ars Electronica digital art festival here this weekend. Some fantastic stuff, will upload pics when I find the phone cable...if I didn't leave it in Liverpool... oh dear.

http://www.aec.at/index_de.php

Also the migrating academies project is here from Vilnius (among other places) so I will go along tonight and see if anyone there knows Fiona Flynn (fellow a-n blogger who was filming an art/reality show, Artothlon, there this summer).

http://www.a-n.co.uk/artists_talking/projects/single/544034

Exhibition opens here on Tuesday evening so that had better be first on my list I suppose!! Work is sort of done, but I haven't decided how to show it or where it should go. The space is still awkward and I am considering putting it in the lift. Maybe I should be in it? Maybe I should walk around during the opening, bump into people and spill their drinks and break other people's work. Perhaps not. Besides I had more ideas and starting making another piece today, as usual.

Mehmet from Turkey is here, going through similar troubles extracting money or information, I empathise but cannot lend anything this time.. Money from YSP (To be paid Sep 1st in contract) has not appeared - it is to be a cheque in the post so I am being very wary of spending what I have.. it might need to last me a long time. I realise now that I am always in this situation and it is tiresome! It also makes me a bore so I shall stop on that subject, sorry.

So anyway.. hanging the show over the next day or two and then some proper thoughts.

# 103 [27 August 2009]

Paidblog!!!

Just a quickie.. I'm back and oh a bath and my own bed were so sweet. Really enjoyed a massive pot of tea and some toast this morning too.

More importantly.. I've beed paid! Some birthday God must have been looking over me, or perhaps the money did go through and just took a very very long time. I don't care and it doesn't matter that it took over six weeks (ahem) ..I can now relax and pay some bills! Phew.

Few bits of writing to get done today and tomorrow and then my brain shall be non-art/work related for the whole weekend.

See you next week.

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Happy Birthday, I hope you partied well. Nothing quite like your own bed. Did you actually manage to maintain an art free head for a whole weekend though? Surely only if you had a two day hangover?!

posted on 2009-08-27 by Rachel Howfield (Massey)

Thanks Phil :)

posted on 2009-08-27 by Emily Speed

Many happy returns to you and your sister, and, er, many happy returns...

posted on 2009-08-27 by Phil Illingworth

Emily Speed, August 2009. Photo: Jens Sundheim.

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Emily Speed, August 2009. Photo: Jens Sundheim.

Emily Speed, August 2009. Photo: Jens Sundheim.

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Emily Speed, August 2009. Photo: Jens Sundheim.

# 102 [26 August 2009]

The birthday trip home to Liverpool begins in about two hours, so I shall see you in September...

Hoping this break will give everything a bit of clarity when I get back and see my work again. The next exhibiton is on the 8th September, so I want to think carefully about how I show things in that exhibition space. My mum is coming back to Linz with me for a few days, which will be so nice - the thing about residencies is no one else gets to see where you are or what you're doing, so you come back talking about things and no one else has clue. It makes you dull if you're not careful! Unfortunately she may end up getting roped into a photography session or similar :)

Some images of the work that Jens took in the attic of me.. no title yet. I also dumped all the images into an animation to see what it looked like, the answer seems to be too comical! Feedback includes, mad deranged dalek, Howl's Moving Castle (awesome Studio Ghibli film), cardboard robot, waddling city, hilarious and well funny. This was all well meant and looking at it, I can see where they're coming from! However, plenty of editing and displayed how I want it should look a little differently, I hope! Perhaps the dear blog readers have some other comparisons to add??

Here is the unedited animation should you care to take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE_bhNOQm2g

(The House Like Me title is temporary -  from one of my artists' books and is inspired by Casa Malaparte, a kind of self portrait in architecture by Curzio Malaparte, on the island of Capri.)

Some ideas around the work:

Inhabiting the city/being outside the city/The city as psychological space/The city or architecture as self portrait.

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hello Emily. Just been taking a look at some of your images. I really like them as documentation of your work! it looks really interesting! Howls Moving Caslte is amazing is it not: Studio Ghibli are endlessly inspiring! great stuff

posted on 2009-08-28 by Richard Taylor

Oh, I love the clangers! But yes city within a city, that's kind of how I see people, or myself at least. It seems a bit like fractals.. where the same patterns and complexities are repeated even on minute scales, if that makes any sense! Thanks for having a look!

posted on 2009-08-27 by Emily Speed

Hi. Well watching the animation reminded of a scene from 'the clangers'. Anyway, to be serious and boring, the still images of the construction have totally changed the feel of the attic, there is a powerful prescence made by the tower. City within a bigger city?

posted on 2009-08-26 by Anthony Boswell

# 101 [25 August 2009]

post #101! Should I be worried?

Applyingblog:

Battling today with my need to try and do evrything all the time in the world ever.. Currently this involves my regular load of applications plus two open exhibitions - the kind I never normally apply for (I like to go and see them, but then I also like having my work in exhibitions with fewer people and a planned connection). These two seem to be more themed and connected with my work.. but then they ask for an entry fee. Just little ones, but I don't like that either (although I recognize the amount of admin involved).

It seems too much of a gamble to be honest. Perhaps I'll choose just one, that's not a bad compromise.. then I can add it to my list of lessons learned if unsuccessful. 

Again, YSP comes to my rescue when I look at a lot of dates and have to say.. oh no, I shall be in Yorkshire, can't apply for that. I quite like having some things in my diary until July next year!

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