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By: Emily Speed

Rather than talk about my work on here (I have tried it and it seems to make me quite despondent) I have decided it will be far more helpful for me to explore some of the issues facing artists trying to make a living out of this business...

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# 100 [24 August 2009]

NotPaidblog:

well, guess what, the money didn't go through again. No travel money, no fee money - nothing. I am pretty disappointed, but not surprised. I am leaving for Liverpool on Wednesday evening as it is my 30th birthday on Sat 29th and I have to spend it with my twin sister (it just wouldn't be right not to). I was looking forward to some celebrating, frock buying, champagne drinking (oh fine, cava then), not worrying.

As it is, IF the money goes through this week (international payments on Thursdays) then it will be in my account by Tuesday 1st September. One problem, all my bills come out then, rent, studio, council tax etc et... If the money doesn't go through.. I have no reserves left now, overdraft used, credit card a goner. End of line. Except family loans of course.. but that's horrible, I don't want to do that, I'm 30 next week.. an adult capable of supporting themself surely?

Pah. meeting about travel money on Wed morning, so that may be a couple of hundred guaranted for the 1st, although I don't know why this hasn't been paid in already. But as for the rest of it, it seems I am at the mercy of Linz council or some other official body...I don't really know what's going on.

so for the last two weeks of my residency I may have some money to spend (see reports of drunken, belligerent artists in the cultural capital)? Or not... watch this space....

# 99 [22 August 2009]

Linzblog:

On Friday we were very lucky indeed, and managed to get the keys to go into the tunnels under Linz. As the book I am making is about the surface and what lies underneath, I have been desperate to get in the tunnels and I have been pestering Holger to get me in for a while.. it was good too as everyone ended up going and seeing them. Earlier in the 09 year, there was an exhibition held in the tunnels, which I am so sad I missed, but the gallery who curated it still had the keys. This is a really good example of the things residencies can give you - a way in to things that would otherwise seem impossible. You have a middle man from the residency programme who knows who to ask and how to ask them.

These tunnels were partly built by prisoners from Mauthausen concentration camp 20kms outside the city. One of the hardest camps - no gas chambers until quite late on, but worked to death working in a stone quarry - a lot of the prisoners here were sent from Auschwitz and it was also well known for holding a lot of Russians, and treating them with incredible cruelty (5 tea spoonfuls of food every three days, enough to keep you alive, but hardly living). They worked in the dark (pitch black) and when bombs were dropped on Linz, which was often, as the industry Hitler built up was for manufacturing ammunition and artillary, the prisoners were made to go outside so the guards could take shelter.

We had about two hours in the tunnels and access to about 2 miles of them over two levels underground. On the lowest level there was the shell of a really old car, which was incredible and very puzzling! Lights only went so far so there were parts that we only saw after taking a photograph with flash.

This was an incredible experience that I won't forget.

http://www.mauthausen-memorial.at/

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Fantastic images, Emily. Sorry I've been offside for a while. Only now had the wherewithal to check out what you're doing. Looks like you're making the most of your time there and getting loads out of it - but i've only been able to skim your blog. You're applied and focussed and I can learn big lessons from that. Keep in touch and I'll keep checking in from now on... Fx

posted on 2009-08-24 by Fiona Flynn

It's amazing isn't it, but the complete opposite you're right- hostile, dark, cold, sinister! Some of the images will form part of the book I am making here, but I am always wary of using places like this; their history is so weighty it feels wrong to bring that into my work, but is unavoidable I think. My husband's Jewish grandfather (an Oppenheim) escaped from Germany during the war (thank goodness) so there is a real interest in these things from his point of view, but this not a territory I intend to go near in my work!!

posted on 2009-08-22 by Emily Speed

Well yet another space of interest, but what a distance it is fron your attic. Got the photos ok and thanks for looking at my web. The surface reveals to us both beauty and fear.

posted on 2009-08-22 by Anthony Boswell

# 98 [19 August 2009]

Rantblog:

Just saw this posted by Art in Liverpool's Ian Jackson on Facebook

http://www.artinliverpool.com/blog/2009/08/topshop...

Liverpool's new topshop are looking for an artist to design and paint the walls in both Topshop and Topman. The store is going to be huge (biggest outside London I think) and has taken months to refit/build. In the midst of all this development you don't think they could manage to leave a bit of cash for the art? No, if you win, it's even preferable that you have your own team of helpers. Nice. You have 5 days to finish it and although there is no payment, you will get 'considerable media attention'. Ah really? thanks Topshop, you lovely multi-million pound business you. It doesn't even say if they will provide the paint/materials - that could make it a very expensive load of media attention if they don't.

This is incredibly angry-making and is a good example of art being added on for decoration (literally) at the last minute. Would a measly £500 have killed them? Wonder how much the shop fittings cost, and the plastic bags? A lot more than the art for sure.

 

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Thanks Rob, and Carol for pointing that out. I did get an email saying off them saying there was now £200 vouchers as payment.. not sure how much that would get you in Topshop these days, not to mention the fact that this costs them next to nothing still. I shall be taking some pictures when I get back to Liverpool in a couple of weeks - curious to see what is done!!

posted on 2009-09-07 by Emily Speed

Ive only just come across this string of comments. Feckin brilliant. Pay penuts and get monkeys is the phrase that comes to mind. Someone on these blogs must live near enough to review these top shop artworks when they are installed. I can see students from what we used to call the collage of distributive trades knocking this out with special paint effects and shiney stuff through the night and the day before the deadline. I dont think the person who wrote the add was quite clear about who they were advertising to, perhaps we are all pompus batsrads Makes a great read though and very funny. well spotted Emily.

posted on 2009-09-07 by Rob Turner

Emily - bit of an update - they are offering a 'prize' of £200 to spend in TopShop now, maybe they read your blog ;) Still, £200 worth of TopShop crap hardly qualifies as reimbursement for 5 long days of painting with all your 'team' - by the time you give all your mates a few vouchers what's left.... apart from the 'prestige' of being on TopShops walls - hmmmm, not for me, that's for sure.

posted on 2009-09-01 by Carol Ramsay

Hi David, sorry I am a bit behind following comments... no I think your first reaction may have been right, or at least honest!! I wouldn't enter this, even if it were well paid. I'm not sure projects of such a commercial nature are ever in the artist's control until you are well-known enough that you can call the shots. This all ties in to the debate about internships I agree, as well as the Olympics and artist being used to put the finish on public realm projects. It seems people don't really question whether it's right or not as it is just what is done these days. They are treating this decorating their shop like a student competition. A quote via Susan Jones.. from a commissioning agent whose client asked why you had to pay artists and not just get some students in: "you wouldn’t want students doing your accounts or other core functions would you?" Quite.

posted on 2009-08-24 by Emily Speed

Emily, having posted my previous comment I was concerned that it was too blunt and uncompromising, and missed some of the points. There might be lots of reasons why someone might decorate Topshop,subversive ones or survival. As a grumpy old(ish)geezer, I think that sections of commerce are becoming more brazenly exploitative of people. The commodification of education, healthecare, the recent debate about 'internships' point in this direction, I am somewhat cynical about commercial concerns hijacking the arts and artists. The relationship is more complex than simple cultural mugging for commercial reasons.So my apologies for a clumsy response.

posted on 2009-08-21 by David Minton

I recall sitting in a staff meeting when the possibility of advertvertisements being placed in the school grounds was discussed quite seriously. The idea was totally appalling. So is the idea of decorating Topshop.

posted on 2009-08-20 by David Minton

Thanks Susan, Anthony.. had a look at the website, very interesting. Topshop say they will provide material expenses, but they did say 'reasonable' so I suppose you are at the mercy of their definition.

posted on 2009-08-20 by Emily Speed

Works Progress Administration and the Federal Arts Project, maybe the same as the 'new deal'?. Pollock and a lot of the New York School where involved, the muralists where often Mexicans, some great stuff. It was on tv recently. I don't think all thought it a success, but I did, brought artists out. gave everyone a chance and to get paid for it.

posted on 2009-08-20 by Anthony Boswell

I think Anthony may mean the US New deal program that was featured in depth in BBC2's Imagine in July - http://www.wwcd.org/policy/US/newdeal.html

posted on 2009-08-20 by Susan Jones

I don't know of that art project Anthony.. I will have to do some research.. To Claudine, who just emailed me about the blog - I deleted your email by accident and as it was in my Junk, and now it is gone never to return! Sorry. Please do send it again if you get chance...

posted on 2009-08-20 by Emily Speed

It makes you think of America's Federal Arts Project, all artists and the muralists getting paid for working, just murals and handing in the work after, needs our government to run that kind of project, get art out there where artists would feel respected, get chances for others, feel like we get a little support. Some good stuff came out of that US programme. Not knocking the arts council, but it needs a bigger thing for all.

posted on 2009-08-20 by Anthony Boswell

I had a look at that briefly yesterday when I was trying to find out how much they turned over per annum (Oxford Street Store = over 100 million a year and the company profits were about 90,000,000 last year). I have emailed to see what the exact deal is - after I shout first I thought I'd better check the facts! However, I do plan to write and tell them what's wrong with their competition process once I am armed with all the information. Are artists stakeholders? Yes probably, or some are at least (I occasionally shop there, so yes!). So I'd better give them some feedback then right?

posted on 2009-08-20 by Emily Speed

You may be curious to read Topshop's Corporate responsiblity policy that includes:"We fully subscribe to the concept of the “living wage”. see http://www.topshop.com/files/tscodeofconduct.pdf. It also says: "We will continually improve our programme by seeking feedback and input from our suppliers and through stakeholder dialogue." Are artists 'stakeholders'?

posted on 2009-08-20 by Susan Jones

what a great opportunity to subvert the corporation. the rant man has alerted me to the wonderous possibilites...with no money or material involved, one immediately breaks free of style sheets and corporate colours and marketing requirements. so the plan goes like this, we put in a proposal that is exactly what they want to hear, ok, we'll need to research that bit, once we are obviously succesful, we go in and do what we want as quickly as we want and then fuck off. we could of course do all of this under an assumed name, oh shit, that bit sounds way to sold out now. oh dear, rant man is right.

posted on 2009-08-19 by andrew martyn sugars

# 97 [19 August 2009]

Paidblog:

Very good news: Intute have found me 10 hours work a month until December :) So glad. This will be mainly reviewing/ updating the mass of old and out of date records, but if you have a good art related website then send me the link and I will add it to the database.

emily@emilyspeed.co.uk

No personal websites I'm afraid, but good critical research or indepth written content very welcome..

http://www.intute.ac.uk/creativearts/

Breakfast in the garden

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Breakfast in the garden

Where I spent Sunday.

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Where I spent Sunday.

Gordon Matta Clark, 'Brooklyn Floor'. An actual Gordon, in the flesh. I have only seen photographs and films before and this was a fantastic suprise. Of course I touched it plenty when the attendant wasn't looking.

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Gordon Matta Clark, 'Brooklyn Floor'. An actual Gordon, in the flesh. I have only seen photographs and films before and this was a fantastic suprise. Of course I touched it plenty when the attendant wasn't looking.

Attersee

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Attersee

At about 3 on Sunday afternoon Stephan comes out with coffee ice cream floats and freshly baked apple strudel for eveyone. I almost declare my undying love for him, but shove a spoonful of ice cream in my mouth instead.

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At about 3 on Sunday afternoon Stephan comes out with coffee ice cream floats and freshly baked apple strudel for eveyone. I almost declare my undying love for him, but shove a spoonful of ice cream in my mouth instead.

# 96 [19 August 2009]

Paidblog:

Alas, still no money through. I guess when a bigger amount is transferred the bank like to hold onto it for a bit longer to make themselves some money.

Linzblog:

An incredible weekend.. to the house of a local artist up north, a gorgeous 18th century cottage with a huge garden and orchards looking out over hills and hills and hills. Beautiful. Also discovered that Stephan is an amazing cook, so we were fed on gourmet titbits all weekend while we lounged on sunbeds and deckchairs reading through his collection of art magazines. Bliss, and a much needed break from the Salzamt. Living and working in the same building is fantastic, intense, productive, but also too much after a while! On Saturday there was a trip to Atterseee (one of the big lakes in the Salzkamergutt area.) and swimming in very clear water followed by smoked makerel from a little wooden hut by the Danube on the way back. Sunday night and Monday I spent in Vienna, while Stephan collected some large prints for the next exhibition here. I went to see Mind Expanders, Performative Bodies - Utopian Architecture at MUMOK

http://www.mumok.at/program/exhibitions/mind-expan...

Very relevant to my work at the moment and really meaty stuff. Very nice to see some work of Austrian/German artists that don't get shown much in the UK. Valie Export is a new favourite.

http://www.valieexport.com/

Cy Twombly was also on and I was surprised how much I enjoyed that.. especially the sculptures and photographs, or maybe it was the mix of everything. Made me realise I too am guilty of putting artists into neat boxes (it's just what I am fed, sorry!!).

I also had a good walk round, went into some of the commercial galleries - really nothing I could recommend unfortunately. A walk past the Secession building sent a shudder through me as I relived working at the Tate during the Klimt exhibition last year. Thank god it was closed Mondays so I didn't have to decided whether to go in or not... although they do have contemporary art as well as the Beethoven frieze! My Tate staff card actually gets me in everywhere free... well almost, somtimes you have to pay 50 cents (tax?). This in incredible, changes the way you look at exhibitions, how long you spend and also saved me at least 40 euros.

Yesterday we spent four hours sorting out the flyer for the upcoming exhibition. Uck. A struggle working with a group of headstrong artists with whom relationships are still fairly new, but we have an image. Just need a title now... oh dear! My cardboard idea for the image was the one we ended up using, so I was very glad about that..

Anxious about time/work/finshing/whether what I'm making is a pile of crap or not, but just doing it now - it's too late for too much worrying.

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Yep, a bit further towards the mountains though, away from all the people... : )

posted on 2009-08-19 by Emily Speed

Hi, Thanks Emily. Is that the lake your attic ship was floating you on?

posted on 2009-08-19 by Anthony Boswell

# 95 [14 August 2009]

Paid in Linz blog:

Just spoke to Holger (thanks H if you are reading this!).. money was paid in yesterday!! Hoorah - more than I thought too, so massive sighs of relief all round. That means on Tuesday next week (perhaps Monday?) I shall be rich! Beyond my wildest dreams. Well, actually I will be buying my sister a really nice 30th birthday present and squirreling away a large amount for my tax bill in 2010! There is enough materials money to make a decent edition of the 'Grau/Gelb' book too, which is very exciting. I don't think I can finish it while I am here unfortunately (a prototype but not a finished edition).. that will involve at least a weeks (maybe two if I make a hardback..) full time work in the print studio and on assembly. But it will be done!! I need another month here! I wish I could have stayed for six infact. That would change everything and it's interesting (and useless) to think about how the work would continue to develop. I suspect it will be hard to hold onto in the same way when I get back to Liverpool and am in the midst of many stressful workshops for YSP in Wakefield.

Tax blog:

I was just messenging Dan about getting money and he piped up with tax worries.. YSP (the next project) involves a £10,000 bursary, but it is a charity and should be tax free say HMRC, although they won't say one way or another over the phone until I file it! This is because it is for career development/ training rather than paying a proper rate. It includes 100 days work - £100 per day, but travel, materials and accomodation while in Wakefield are not included, so the actual amount includes a lot of living costs rather than payment. Linz is definately taxable as it is a fee for work done, although I have some confusion about earning the money in Austria rather than the UK (when working in Japan I opted to pay NI, but didn't have to). But I will declare it of course.. infact earning more on paper is really important this year as I'm sure we will want to try and buy a house at some point in the next few years.... At least that is for next year's taxes.. I still have to do this years, although they are very simple as I earned bugger all!

Next year's tax form will involve this ever-increasing pile of receipts/travel costs and much more complicated things. I would like an accountant, but not sure my earnings are going to be enough to warrant it. Liverpool Council/ACME offer free accounts/tax training to self employed types, and so do Train 2000 infact. I shall be going down that route first. This may just give me a true idea of how little I know and lead me to an accountant!

Right, enough tax chat.. more glue guns and cardboard.

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Of course Anthony, save away... if you want a larger version for printing just let me know, I will email. emilyspeed@hotmail.com. Glad it has such potential for you!

posted on 2009-08-19 by Emily Speed

Yes, I may save the image if that ok? It seems possible to imagine all sorts of things and I have only got the photo. It is almost heaven, so high up if not floating, safe because of those beams, protective. Glad you feel safe and able to imagine. Enjoy.

posted on 2009-08-14 by Anthony Boswell

It's amazing isn't it Anthony.. The work is all about being between places so the attic seems like the perfect place - it's like an unreal space and so hopefully will act like a psychological space in a way or an 'other' space, a type of heterotopia . It is me on my own (rattling round my brain perhaps!) in this non-place. It reminds me of a ship too - I like that as the ship is always between (lands) and doesn't have ground. Thanks, I am now imaging myself afloat in there! :)

posted on 2009-08-14 by Emily Speed

Hi Emily. That attic space looks so interesting, almost ship like, good light quality (thinking of my drawings there). Wonder what impact it has on your work, or none?

posted on 2009-08-14 by Anthony Boswell

Small room in the attic, where I will document the work.

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Small room in the attic, where I will document the work.

Me puzzling over nets for all the elements of the sculpture.

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Me puzzling over nets for all the elements of the sculpture.

Sketch of the costume. Imagine me inside and my feet sticking out of the bottom.

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Sketch of the costume. Imagine me inside and my feet sticking out of the bottom.

Photo: Jens Sundheim. Serious Emily.

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Photo: Jens Sundheim. Serious Emily.

Rain.

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Rain.

# 94 [13 August 2009]

blogblog:

Just noticed that a shortlist of 59 proposals for Take the Lead (Cultural Olympiad) has been decided on: http://tinyurl.com/mbzwcu. Some interesting ideas..

Linz blog:

Rain here, the likes of which I haven't seen since I lived in Japan. It's nice and warm too so was good to go out, get soaked and then have a swim in the river, in the rain today.

Work still going well.. I am making a costume/wearable sculpture for a performative piece Jens is going to help me document in the attic. Feel very lucky to have the help of such a talented photographer and hope I can repay him in other art favours. Imagine if art-bartering worked so well all the time! I never appear in my work so this is a bit of a strange leap for me, but I feel a bit like no one is watching, so it's a good time to try something I would normally be too shy/self-conscious to do. Drawings, nets, start, attic and my portrait by Jens all here... He is photographing all the artists in their studios as part of an ongoing project, but I will also use it for the article I WILL write for the neuner (09) managzine... any day.... I don't look like me.. far too serious (or glazed?!).

Travel money for the first leg of the journey came through, alas, by pure human error the £130 flight was missed off, so all I got was £42 trains... oh dear.. trip to Salzburg is off then! I was pretty fed up when I realised, but I'm so defeated by it, I just feel like what difference will one week make? More studio work at least...

 

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I know you're aware of the survey running at the moment through AIR to provide an up-to-date stat on artists' employment status. So far, it's coming out at 73% self-employed - far hiigher than past stats that have put it at 50-60%. Interestingly, it is also showing that around 35% of artists have an MA. - this mirrors a Metier survey a few years ago, These points of evidence are crucial in advocating for improvements in artists' working conditions including remuneration and expectations. Artists can complete the survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Ed7IFlfPvlLZ3TVuXnxyOw_3d_3d

posted on 2009-08-14 by Susan Jones

# 93 [12 August 2009]

Cont from previous post..

I also think this is where the arts get strange. I'm not sure there are other industries (for want of a better word), where unpaid professionals work alongside paid ones (Is anyone really paid?). I don't think it's really a case of amateur and professional working alongside each other, as lots of artists are graduates and have been practising for a long time, they just earn their income in another sphere. Imagine if someone graduated in accounting and after university continued their part time job in a stationery shop whilst doing accounts in their spare time -  never going to happen because they can and will earn money.

If artists never expect or ask to get paid (properly) for the things they do then why would the public perception of arts being free ever need to change? It won't. If artists, on the other hand, recognise that they have many skills to offer, perhaps in other arenas than simply making their own work, other people will also value them. I'm thinking about all the multi-tasking, writing, applying creative thinking, problem solving, imaginative, thrifty things that artists do in everyday lives that could be applied in any number of situations.

As the visual arts are becoming increasingly important parts of big development projects and consultations, it is up to artists to stand up for their worth. A really great example in this field is Sans Facon, who get involved with large scale projects, but will also insist on changing the terms to fit the way they work best if they cannot work within the original brief.

http://www.sansfacon.co.uk/

On the other hand, the perception of the arts being free is quite far gone and it might take a lot of work to undo it - but on the scale of individual/organisation, it might only need a conversation. There is also the issue of there being too many artists for the amount of work available, I have no idea what happens there. I guess you just have to try and find the place you fit best and work at that, perhaps considering other avenues for work that aren't strictly art? It seems to me the less restrictions or labels you tag onto yourself, the less likely it is that others will categorise you too.

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Yep, I can imagine there is a rant waiting! What a crappy situation and so depressing to get bank charges... it's hard isn't it though as you want to write about the way things are but don't always want to bare every single bit of your being on a blog! Add skills away - these here are only words.. the skills belong to you!

posted on 2009-08-13 by Emily Speed

Hi Emily, I too have been feeling exactly the same as you, have had a rant about my overdraft sitting here unpublished for days........!! Been struggling with bank charges lately and went to a very dark place indeed! I totally agree with you about other graduates not having to support themselves with part time work in another area - why would they? They get paid for what they do, and so should we. I hope you don't mind, I'm going to add some of those skills to my CV.

posted on 2009-08-13 by Helen Dearnley

Response on my blog. Thanks.

posted on 2009-08-13 by Anthony Boswell

Hi Emily. Almost took your stance today and ranted!

posted on 2009-08-12 by Anthony Boswell

# 92 [12 August 2009]

Getting paid blog:

This is in reply to Christina and Andrew in the previous post.. firstly thanks very much for the rant encouragment! There shall be more to come. However, recent frustrations I mentioned here are more to do with personal.. shall we say.. issues, with one of the other artists here (and money), and the blog is not the place! This is one of my areas for improvement - knowing where the line is and not stepping over it!

Regarding writing about my practice, I did want to try it again with the Linz blog, but I have learned that when I am very involved in something and start analysing it too much, it gets complicated. I then tend to paralyze myself with too much thought and stop making. I find it is better to have a little distance on things and although I know what I want and am trying to do, the consideration of success and progress should be done retrospectively. Of course this is entirely personal and just what works best for me. No rules etc..

Not sure I agree entirely with your thoughts on the importance of money in the equasion.. It is difficult when you are so absorbed in what you're doing to consider money, but I think it IS important where the money comes from. By supporting your art with another job, doesn't that say something about not valuing your own work? Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's possible to get paid for just making work everyday - so I realise the idea that an artist has a studio and works in it all the time is pretty difficult to acheive. But there are ways of getting people to invest in you, to find support for periods of time, perhaps people will buy your work too (not really with mine). What I mean is, it's very challenging and it takes hard work (and often miserable rejections and self-doubts), but aren't the hours of boring admin the same as having a part time job somewhere? We don't want to do it - but it is what brings money.

My dad had an electrical engineering firm when I was small and when he did tenders for jobs (that took days), I remember thinking 'what the hell's that about? They might not even get the job and they're doing all that work for nothing..'. He always said that they budgeted to get one out of eight jobs. It's exactly the same with applications for me and if I get one out of 4/5 residencies/exhibitions, I count myself successful. (It is also a basic psychological trick to make myself feel okay about the knock backs!)

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# 91 [11 August 2009]

Blogging blog:

I have been reading blogs, but not writing them for the last few days. This is mainly because I am frustrated about a fair few things and I just don't think it's entirely appropriate to be ranting about it all on here. I have an opinionated mouth and I should think more before I speak! I have written a few ranty posts in notepad, left them for review in the morning and never posted them.

Linz blog:

Work is great; racing along with four or five different projects, some drawing, sculptures and a bookwork. None of these will be finished as such by the end of the residency, but I am excited and happy to have so many leads and to be working so consistently. One of the projects will be photographed in the attic space (gorgeous, but not safe for public use, hence the vetoed exhibition idea!) and I hope to have a prototype of the book ready for the exhibition. This is called 'The City is Yellow, The City is Grey' and uses the colours to explore the bright side of Linz contrasted with a darker, underground side.

Time feels like it is rushing by and I'm not sure how I will get my day trips (Salzburg/Vienna/Cesky Krumlov) in before I leave.. especially as these are also dependent on cash! Holger as been given the okay to take us to one of the big lakes near Salzburg for the day, so perhaps we will do this next week (weather is a bit overcast this week). Overnight trip to one of the local artist's country pad this weekend and it will be so good to get out! Living and working in one place is great, but I could do with a change....

I also contacted some more artists this week to interview about how they make a living, and have been purposefully trying to contact more established artists to get a balance (and those whose work I really like too!). So far there is quite a lot of passiveness (in accepting things the way they are) and many of the artists are exhibiting garret/starvation tendancies! Ther are a couple who really tip the balance though, so that's interesting to see... wonder what the older generation have to say?

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hi emily. i read with interest that yo stopped talking about making as it made you despondant. i'm there at the moment. so vering to money and getting it, i feel all bets are off really. if the notion of the artist getting paid for their work is left alone, and the consideration of the person who is driven to make things in response to thought, feeling, a mood, a look, a desire to create every time they wake up is put in it;s place, then the way in which that person gets money to pay bills is irrelevent, as the things being made are more important than money. i'm with you if rants are what is needed then let the rants be red. "there are no rules, merely guidelines." potc.

posted on 2009-08-11 by andrew martyn sugars

No, feel free to rant please! I find your ranting posts really interesting and useful. Opinionated maybe, but it's informed opinion and you always seems to make really valid points. Long live the Emily rants!

posted on 2009-08-11 by Christina Bryant

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