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By: Rob Turner
'Community', undoubtedly the singularly most important aspect of my work!
This blog will highlight a mixture of episodes, involving working with other people on public/community artworks.
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'musical chairs with a difference!'. No one is ever out but you still keep taking chairs away. Cooperation, respect and kindness enable the completion of this game.
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'a friendship bracelet'.
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'making stuff ......flowers as our gift to the next group'. where does life and art cross over ....do they?
# 45 [25 January 2011]
Respect and friendship
I knew something must be wrong when small groups of staff stand at the edges of your working area looking at what your doing with shaking heads and folded arms obviously horrified at the delivery of your workshop.
To cut a long storey short we were playing musical chairs with a twist and blind mans buff with 30 secondary school students, followed by falling backwards into trusting arms, all activities designed to place participants in positions where trust and respect and friendship are highlighted.
The expectations of the school were so very different from what we were trying to achieve and a quite word in my shell like made me feel extreemly awkward and that this was inapropriate free form woolley liberal nonsence that did not fit into this school of artistic exellance where teachers at the top of their game taught students who learned things!
Oh........we were trying to demonstrate the values of respect and friendship as the project was designed to include participants in experiencing the core Olympic values and this afternoon we were going to write some thank you cards make some friendship bracelets and do some art and craft stuff you know watch an instruction video showing you how to make some paper flowers and that out of crepe paper, possibly read a poem make little gift holder simple origami sort of pyramids, whatever you want to do really.
I felt pretty humiliated and that how could we be this far into the project and have missed the target so completely. I found myself being shown a display of wildcat sculptures from lce cream tubs and paper mache with leopards painted on them. All 20 of them were formulaicly painted and constructed, obviously a lot more art was involved in creating these sculptures which had shown how to research something and make it.
Fair enough.
Our values project has a budget of £20 materials per day and is not being marked for exam criteria and we send a gift onto the another school as indeed will receive one in turn from them.
I am delivering this with a new collegue and we both have the full support of our project manager who assured us we were doing exactly the kind of thing that was expected of us.
We have three more workshops to deliver and as it happens determination is another of those Olympic values. A quality which we undoubtedly need to reach the end of our programme!
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But did the kids enjoy themselves? I see some pretty happy little faces in those pictures - that's what matters after all isn't it? Teachers-be-damned! (I guess I shouldn't say that out loud really) Cheers!
posted on 2011-02-01 by Jane Boyer
thank you for your follow up comment too. i see the word communication...twice actually. as i spot those instances, i left thinking about two other things... the talking about something and the doing something. i sit with elbows on kness and a palm on chin... i think it's better to do something...to evoke a thought, a reaction, a tenable thing. have you experienced a day where 'the artist' has been sent in to explore new teritory, as the artist is best coped to deal with an enormous ship suddenly appearing on the horizon ?
posted on 2011-01-28 by andrew martyn sugars
thank you for your follow up comment too. i see the word communication...twice actually. as i spot those instances, i left thinking about two other things... the talking about something and the doing something. i sit with elbows on kness and a palm on chin... i think it's better to do something...to evoke a thought, a reaction, a tenable thing. have you experienced a day where 'the artist' has been sent in to explore new teritory, as the artist is best coped to deal with an enormous ship suddenly appearing on the horizon ?
posted on 2011-01-28 by andrew martyn sugars
hi Andrew I am trying to show the good, the bad and the ugly of working as an artist and glad you got something from the post. The full impact of this expectation gap was exposed today. COMMUNICATION its so important. This is a pilot project, an experiment in approach to teaching and delivery of ideas, not an art project. The school seem not to have seen that, or even know an experiment in teaching approaches could have been thought of and be happening in their school. I remember a hearing a story about Captain Cook sailing into the Hawaiian islands in the pacific and the native people were unable to even see his ship, though it was so large and utterly outside the sphere of their understanding that it was not visable to them. COMMUNICATION breakdown, everyone too busy (including me) to fully consider and respect the requests needed for understanding for all those involved.
posted on 2011-01-27 by Rob Turner
an insiteful post rob. thank you for sharing. all the best. andrew.
posted on 2011-01-27 by andrew martyn sugars
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Missile Testing in my garden.
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'Catapult Game in the School Hall'. score 5-10-15-20 points by firing a catapult at a target on the floor, then double the score if you can match the quote to the person who said it!
# 44 [21 January 2011]
I have decided to switch blogs?
Promted by: Annabell Tileys last post.
http://www.a-n.co.uk/artists_talking/projects/single/642682
And this is because working with other people is really what I am doing all the time and will be for a while. It is also what my professional world is all about. Pooling resources, sharing knowledge, combining skills and ideas to move things forward.
This way of working has become essential for me to survive as an artist and gone is that notion of a discovered tallent with singular recognition as an artist, in the manor of 'celebrity status' Annabel describes. This is the model that art education still persists with (in my experience) and is out moded, when was the last time a collage lecturerer rewrote their lesson plans and course objectives? Are they like Norton Motor Cycles and we've built them like this for years and they work so why change them.....while far eastern industrial powers launched Honda, Yammah and Suzuki and Norton's bikes did not survive, neither can our artists now!
Could artists be trained for the world so they work with Head School Teachers, Church Leaders, Landscape designers, Programme Managers, Maths Teachers, Architects, Planning Officers and Wildlife Organizations, Builders and the General Public. Surley the invention and skills of artists is better utilized in the world than put in a don't touch box. I dont get that.
Anyway another rant over.....and to end I decided to post a picture of the catapult / trebuchet type machine we used in the school hall for a game with secondary school students...a bit of light relief and a really good laugh.
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i so want to introduce a new word.... oh i will .... collaboration.... i did it for years not knowing that was what it was, i worked in theatre... alas it was not medical, it was cultural and entertainment.
posted on 2011-01-28 by andrew martyn sugars
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'Ford Escort', pastel. Prospect Farm, I can see the wind mills from here.
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'Ford Escort', pastel. Windfarm has been in my mind for ages.
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'Ford Escort'. The loose stuff on the metal really picks up when you rub it with your fingers.
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'Ford Escort'. There is a farmer in the field over there getting out of his tractor and lighting fires.
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'Ford Escort', Pastel. This car has been used to block the entrance into a field and I guess it was put here deliberatly by the farmer?
# 43 [18 August 2010]
Working With Other People.
When making art seems all too hard, a waste of time, an uphill struggle or even a loosing battle. Phone a friend and say 'I have an idea why dont we X-Y-Z'.
Some one I know did this to me. I have done it to a couple of people and things have brightened right up.
Projects both paid and unpaid have resulted, some stuff is more speculative and may sew seeds in future.
Musicians do this all the time: Have a go, push a few buttons, see what happens, take it round the block and push some more buttons and really have a look (as it says in the Honda add).
Isolation: Its a bad place and dont stay there, go there and have look see what its like. I was sitting at my computer pushing refresh on my email box all day and it really is brain damage.
Next week I will be planning work for an 'Urban Safari'. Today I drew windmills on an abandoned car!
Art......fekin great, make some.
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Sir John Everett Millais, 'The Boyhood of Raleigh', oil, ages ago. Courtesy: tinternet. Looking into the future. Wondering whats over there across the water?
# 42 [21 July 2010]
The Boyhood of Raleigh By Millais
What's that got to do with the price of fish? your asking me. This painting shows the young Raleigh looking into his future. The Corsair ........or is he a tary sailair, no matter, anyway we all know Raleigh sets off across the seas.
This is also me at secondary school in the 1970's listening to my art teachers. In those days I used to paint still life (I wish I still did). I remember a little voice in my head saying I would mature into a Landscape Painter. But the voyages I took never landed there. In fact I never even really became a painter. Raphael, Robert Motherwell or Malcolm Morely, proper feckin painters you know ...Breugel even.
But this might be the time to remember that little voice and cross over the water to the landscape over there in the distance I see every day. There has been alot of that water under the bridge since I heard that little voice and I know I will never be a landscape painter in the traditional sense.
So I have decided to be a 'Landscape Blogger' instead. It might be even better.......see what comes out?
As for this blog, I guess its dormant, waitng to be picked up in the future maybe?
The title for my new blog will be: Blogging the Blean'.
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Thanks guys, its good to know someone will read at least the first couple of posts or so.
posted on 2010-07-26 by Rob Turner
Look forward to reading!
posted on 2010-07-21 by Clare Smith
A conceptual landscape......very interesting and right up my alley. Looking forward to it!
posted on 2010-07-21 by Jane Boyer
# 41 [14 July 2010]
I have just spent some time really enjoying looking back through the comments on this blog and would like to thank everyone for their contributions, but at the same time appologise to people for not responding properly or picking up and developing issues raised.
I tend to remember the ones about who is bullying who, or what they sing in the bath and the hippy flowers painted in colours that wer'nt even provided for workshop use.
Blogging is best when it is a two way thing and thank you for contributing it is much apprietiated.
I recieved a form for a tendering process yesterday which was accompanied with a 42 page document of guidelines and contractural procurement procedure. This has resulted in my inability to make any sence of the world today, or string coherant thought together at all.
Procurement? we have to re-think this, exchanging information is'nt that difficult is it? The question is always the same though, how will you carry out the ideas you havn't had yet and how much will they cost to deliver?
Slow down will you..control freak! or is it me that's unreasonable?
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Hi Claire and Jane, I have found your blogs and others on here an insight into other peoples types of art forms. Though I often I look and say nothing, but I know I feel better when I get feed back and people make comments on this blog so I try to engage on other peoples blogs. I am worried I may speak rubbish in front of everyone, but 'worse things happen at sea' as my mother used to say.
posted on 2010-07-18 by Rob Turner
Hi Rob, I'll join Clare in thanking you for commenting on my blog too. I can tell you stay tuned in because your comments come so regularly. It is very much appreciated, especially for a newcomer like me. Ta very much.
posted on 2010-07-15 by Jane Boyer
Hi Rob Likewise thanks for commenting on mine. The 42-page doc sounds like a real killer. Good luck!
posted on 2010-07-14 by Clare Smith
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'The Garden Party'. Marquees at the BBQ
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'The Garden of dreams'. Messages about the project tied to a tree.
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'The Garden of dreams'. Everyone painted a flower pot.
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'The Garden of dreams'. The upper part of the garden with table and benches.
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'Beans'. Beans grow on plants! so thats where the supermarkets get them.Lots of project photos @http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc3/robturner/School%20Garden%20Project/
# 40 [5 July 2010]
Garden Party at the Garden of Dreams.
You know when your project is a success when:
A) Three unmotivated teachers working with you all resign their posts.
B) The goal posts move 5 times, but you still score.
C) You avoid injuries to pupils when using heavy hand tools and power tools.
D) You ask the school librarian if you can display the design work done on the project in the library to the whole school and they phone reception and request 2 cartakers and head staff to act as a SWAT team to eject you from the premises
E) Your work is not vandalised, but targeted by art theives.
F) One of your lessons causes a full scale riot
G) The Caretaker is on your side
H) A posse of students are sent out to find and bring you back when you're wandering around the school field talking on your mobile phone, when you hadn't realised you were supposed to be making a speech and thanking everyone for their help at the celebration garden party.
I) The kids you worked with can't believe your not coming back.
J) Your fellow artist (Pete) working with you on the project tells the staff 'Art is about ideas, and design is about realising them'.
K) Finaly; the deputy head invites you to play for their school staff cricket 11.
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Hi Becky, thank you it is good to know when people read your blog. I will read your article, thanks for the invitation. Advice?.................... I was asked if I had a professional indemnity insurance policy in place a short while ago. I dont remember these being available through AIR or their brokers Hencilla or who ever they are? Sorry Becky, not a question for you just me rambling . I am looking forward to your drawing article. Drawing is an interesting subject and thinking about it now I personaly only really use it to relay information to someone else. In a practical or technical capacity to show someone else an idea or to work something out. You know to scale sort of thing. Not as an artwork, like say Antoney Boswell, he has several blogs on this AN site.
posted on 2010-07-18 by Rob Turner
Hi Rob. Thanks a lot for your comment on my blog to do with drawing on the right side of the brain. I think I'm going to develop my response to your thoughtful comment into a blog article. I'll let you know when the article is live in case you'd like to respond. Also... your work as documented in this a-n blog is fantastic. Really inspiring what you can do with groups of people. I might come back to your for advice sometime!
posted on 2010-07-11 by Becky Hunter
Hi Rob, congratulations on your success. It sounds absolutely manic and a downright JOY. I've said before and I'll say again you're doing good work. Cheers!
posted on 2010-07-08 by Jane Boyer
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'The Garden of dreams'. Our finished table and benches.
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'The Garden of Dreams'. Planting our plants in indivdually painted pots.
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'The Garden of Dreams'. More planting
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'The Garden of Dreams'. 'Its taken you over half an hour to fill those wheel barrows up with bark. We are waiting and waiting for it'.
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'project logo'. See project photos athttp://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc3/robturner/School%20Garden%20Project/
# 39 [26 June 2010]
The Garden of Dreams.
The table is now rebuilt and technically it might be a bar. It has only two legs, figured it was not so knickable with only two.
BBQ arrangements all left with the school to carry out. Parents, pupils school govenors and VIP's only.
Now this is the thing? When I look back at my education secondary, junior and primary, which must be over 40 years ago now........ I remember some badly behaved and problematic children with some degree of learning disability. A few years ago I may well have agreed with you if you suggested their was no such thing as ADHD, just bad behaviour. Now I would strongly disagree. I believe it to be real, and have worked with a number of children on two diferent projects who have medicated and unmedicated versions of it.
It is very hard to get results with these children and I compare them with my school contemporaries I mentioned earlier from 40 years ago and there was nothing like it going on. These children can not carry out a task for longer than a few minuites before running off to disrupt others. They are unable to controll this no matter how many detensions, exclusions or even sympathy, patience and time invested in their well being and development.
So: is there chemicals in our diet, something in the water which makes this terrible thing happen? Does it wear off and do you grow out of it in early adulthood? There seems so much of it about in the younger generations, my childrens contemporaries and classmates are afflicted.
Yet non of mine are?
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Hello carol its nice to see you on my blog, but a sad storey. I am pleased to hear it is resolved, but the disruption to the education of others in the class is a serious issue as well. I did try to engage with the parents on the garden party day and found it so hard to just have a conversation with these people it was harder than talking to their children.....and you know what......Sometimes, I can't be bothered to try that hard. Jon I think that poppy seeds, coca leaves, alcohol and tabacco have been around for hundreds upon hundreds of years so I dont think it is related to these but I agree with Carol..chemicals are favourite for me. May be the modern replacements for DDT are more harmful than we thought and react with some people.........I dont have a clue really, but it is a terrible thing and I can understand how parents and teachers reach the end of their tethers without resolving it.
posted on 2010-07-05 by Rob Turner
I think it is chemicals, be it in drink or drugs in pregnancy to reactions to injections that were not around in our day. All manner of things but it is a very real issue for a lot of people. My 10yr old was bullied last year for a whole year by a child in his class with ADHD, his parents were dreadful and so no use in trying to get him any help. I felt for the child but could not stand watching my own son come home battered physically and even more so, mentally each day. The school were dreadful in dealing with it, it's a good school on a 'privileged' estate where things like bullying just dont happen....apparently. As for class behaviour, he hit a few teachers and would scream and swear how his Dad would kill them if they told! Now a year on, the same child is in high school (a different one to my son) but attends the same youth club. The high school stepped up and have helped him immensely through exercise and he is also on medication, the same kid and my son now talk to each other quite civily. My son say he has apologised for 'putting him through hell' he said he knew he was doing it but couldn't stop. They'll never be friends but I am so glad someone is helping him at last.
posted on 2010-06-30 by Carol Ramsay
Hi Rob - I would say poor parenting is the last item on the list. My own son (parented impeccably, of course!) was on the edge of ADHD for a while, simply because he is a very physically active kid, and his primary teacher hated PE, and cancelled the PE lessons week after week on the slightest excuse. Talking to the Head got nowhere, and we had to get Ofsted involved. Now he cycles 2 miles each way to school each day, and gets proper PE that involves running around and getting out of breath, he's much happier in class. Also, what is clear from my partner's experience as a school counsellor, is that damage to the unborn child through heroine, cocaine, tobacco and alcohol, as well as emtional neglect of the born child, are at least as common in well-off or "privileged" families. People think wealth protects children. It doesn't, it only protects the parents.
posted on 2010-06-29 by Jon Bowen
Jon I admire the way you are prepared to wade in on that one and say what you think. I am looking forward to meeting the parents on BBQ day. From talking to teachers on other projects etc its not always the single mother with loads of kids living on benefits that parent these children. Some come from 'privaliged' homes. This is not to say wealthy people are imune from alcohol or other issues which may contribute to poor parenting. There is a film of a book called Percy Jackson and the lighting thief (sadly I have not seen it) apparently where a father turns this terrible syndrone into a possitive force for his sons development.
posted on 2010-06-27 by Rob Turner
An adopted relative was diagnosed with ADHD, and given some medication ... I think there are a number of factors, which all combine, from the mundane "Pissed off with everybody because life's shite", to the structural "Mum was on heroine for the first 3 months of pregnancy", from the traditional "boys need plenty of exercise" to the radical "make lessons optional until kids are ready for them".
posted on 2010-06-27 by Jon Bowen
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plywood acrylic. one of 21 pupils
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plywood / acrylic. another of 21
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plywood / acrylic. the pupils before installation
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The after school club with finished cut outs.
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plywood / acrylic. my favourite one.Lots more photos on http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc3/robturner/Briary%20After%20School%20Club/
# 38 [24 June 2010]
The After School Club.
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'Table'. now you see it.
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'benches'. now you dont
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'stumps'. its been cut off where the wood goes into the metal
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'Rob Turner'. the tables gone innit
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'stumps2'. We can get the wood out and make it again.
# 37 [19 June 2010]
Tables gone innit
sawn off at the point where the wood goes into the metal.
We've a BBQ with parents, school govenors and the agency I am working for is sending some more senior staff I believe.
The heat is on:
Staff off sick
moral is low
and I am not going to mention the gossip around the school!
D day is 2 July and a small.......ish part the budget has been used for unknown expenditure to me : venue hire sort of expenditure. Which is cool, as I went there for a meeting, that wasnt organised by me.
So living on the edge.
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I guess fencing contracts are hard to come by in a recession ... it did some an odd thing to do, nick a table, and this does seem to provide an explanation!
posted on 2010-06-29 by Jon Bowen
Jon the odd thing was that the school were in the process of appointing fencing contractors to put a perimeter fence around the site at a cost of £4000. As nothing really happened over the previous months, security seemed a low concern and I suggested that sum of money would be be better spent on wages for someone to run a garden club and maintain and develop what we have begun. The next day the table was gone? The fence is being erected and I wished I had not opend my mouth.
posted on 2010-06-27 by Rob Turner
I think it came up for auction at Sotheby's last week - Seriously, someone's upset that you'll be going soon, Rob, so they've taken your table home with them as solace ... not that they'd ever admit it ...
posted on 2010-06-27 by Jon Bowen
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'cut outs'. lay down on this board
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'cut outs'. draw round your friend
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'cut outs'. Draw and paint yourself. Then give it to Rob to finish off.
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'cut outs'. Today I took some of the finished ones in to see what they looked like?
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rob turner, 'After school Club', 18mm ply, acrylic. The figures will be placed around the area when completed. Screwed to fences, railings and walls etc. They made a few peolpe jump.More project photos at: http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc3/robturner/Briary%20After%20School%20Club/
# 36 [10 June 2010]
A preview at the After School Club.
I have 21 children (some double sided) cut outs made from 18mm plywood. I took a few into the after school club to see what they looked like and where we might put them. I have about 4 left to complete.
They caused a stir, which is the point really. I also have about a dozen flowers to go with them.
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